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arcan_nineveh
hehehe JK


Saddam Hussein executed for war crimes

By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers 7 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Saddam Hussein, the shotgun-waving dictator who ruled
Iraq with a remorseless brutality for a quarter-century and was driven from power by a U.S.-led war that left his country in shambles, was taken to the gallows and executed Saturday.
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It was a grim end for the 69-year-old leader who had vexed three U.S. presidents. Despite his ouster, Washington, its allies and the new Iraqi leaders remain mired in a fight to quell a stubborn insurgency by Saddam loyalists and a vicious sectarian conflict.

President Bush called Saddam's execution "the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam
Sal-Ah-uddin
He shouldn't of been executed, he should of just spent the rest of his life in jail. Wrong punishment, Wrong timing. Only the Shias in Iraq. The Kurds are not even celebrating, due to the fact that it is Eid Al-Adha. While the Shias are dancing like animals in the street right now.
maako
That was his fate, the rights and wrongs hardly matters. Typically he didnt beg for mercy and faced his executors who had their faces hidden. Whether by fireing squad/lethel injection/electric chair or short drop/long drop. the end result is the same, - kaput.

None knows where/when + how they'll meet the Grim Reaper he fat cabbage in Israel.+ No one gets out of this world alive.

At least he's not being artificially kept half-'alive' in a vegetative comma like a fat cabbage in Israel.. icon_wink.gif

Saddam's death have not resolved anything.
nobody
winky: At least he's not being artificially kept half-'alive' in a vegetative comma like a fat cabbage in Israel.. icon_wink.gif


he was convicted and hanged by his own!
maako
Is that so , icon_rolleyes.gif and while the country is under American occupation.?

Would those you call "his own people" been in a position to convict him if it wasnt for the presence of American forces ? + them holding him upto the hour when the American's were certain that he'd be hung ?

The American + USrael propaganda machine love using the term "his own people" , the Kurd + shias certainly dont regard themselves as being "Saddam's own people" - so please try not repeating such idiocies, on the other hand , if you must do so then please continue. icon_rolleyes.gif


I find it somewhat amusing that the Camp where he was executed , now called "Camp Justice" was untill very recently called "Camp Liberty" . (sick American black humour- hehehehe) what ?
Sal-Ah-uddin
QUOTE(maako @ 12/30/06 02:23 PM) [snapback]101387[/snapback]

That was his fate, the rights and wrongs hardly matters. Typically he didnt beg for mercy and faced his executors who had their faces hidden. Whether by fireing squad/lethel injection/electric chair or short drop/long drop. the end result is the same, - kaput.

None knows where/when + how they'll meet the Grim Reaper he fat cabbage in Israel.+ No one gets out of this world alive.

At least he's not being artificially kept half-'alive' in a vegetative comma like a fat cabbage in Israel.. icon_wink.gif

Saddam's death have not resolved anything.



I would personally pull the lever for Ariel Sharon.
maako
QUOTE(Sal-Ah-uddin @ 12/30/06 09:10 AM) [snapback]101393[/snapback]

I would personally pull the lever for Ariel Sharon.



Oh that would be wicked. I pray(wink) ten times daily that he remain in a sub-conscious state /hopefully totally aware of what's happening for at least another 100 yrs - in a state of Limbo so to speak, to reflect on his criminal past and lay there helpless witnessing the results of his former deeds.

I wish the creature a long slug-like 'half alive' - existence.
chase
QUOTE(arcan_nineveh @ 12/30/06 12:16 AM) [snapback]101367[/snapback]

hehehe JK
Saddam Hussein executed for war crimes

By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers 7 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Saddam Hussein, the shotgun-waving dictator who ruled
Iraq with a remorseless brutality for a quarter-century and was driven from power by a U.S.-led war that left his country in shambles, was taken to the gallows and executed Saturday.
ADVERTISEMENT

It was a grim end for the 69-year-old leader who had vexed three U.S. presidents. Despite his ouster, Washington, its allies and the new Iraqi leaders remain mired in a fight to quell a stubborn insurgency by Saddam loyalists and a vicious sectarian conflict.

President Bush called Saddam's execution "the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam


Arcan, in Iraq they've been showing his horrific legacy on live stream:
http://wwitv.com/onlln/b1906.asx

One of the Halabja Memorials:
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Kurdish Memorial of the Kurdish mother and child
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Kurdish mother and child

On the borders of Kurdistan


A Kurdish poem

On the borders
Where throats are
Choked with good-byes
And eagerness is
Suspended in the eyes
And people asked
When.. where are we ? why..?!

Here a child dies..
There a baby lies, and
Another face-down cries:


My wound is hurting
My breath is hurting
My stomach is hurting,
Mother: Am I to die?
And my white pigeon?!
Are we going to die?


In tears she said:

There beyond the border posts..
Only days: we won't die
For us, God will try..

Again, the child cries:


Will my pigeon die?
Mother: I love her..
She is my life
Because I love,
She does not deserve to die
I love her...

All broke in tears

Dear.. your pigeon died
When the planes pried

And she broke in tears
My white pigeon was gassed?!
My Kurdish pigeon died

Mother.. my hair is falling
Why? Am I do die?

Some water please..
W-a-t-e-r ...


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Halapja: A Crime Against Humanity:
http://www.9neesan.com/halapja/

May all his victims,

Rest In Peace,

Amen
maako
Chase , may it forever be to America's shame that at the time when these atrocities were committed , Washington remained silent and deliberate tried a coverup + place the blame on Iran's Ayatollahs .

It was only after - AFTER - AFTER , Saddam's military build up + foolish invasion of Kuwait that Washington + its vassal USrael acknowledged the atrocities in your photos.

What hypocracy. icon_rolleyes.gif .
maako
Chase , at the time those photos was taken , the American media blamed it on the Ayatollahs of Iran.

Why do you think they did that ? smiley18.gif
chase
QUOTE(maako @ 12/31/06 04:32 PM) [snapback]101442[/snapback]

Chase , may it forever be to America's shame that at the time when these atrocities were committed , Washington remained silent and deliberate tried a coverup + place the blame on Iran's Ayatollahs .

It was only after - AFTER - AFTER , Saddam's military build up + foolish invasion of Kuwait that Washington + its vassal USrael acknowledged the atrocities in your photos.

What hypocracy. icon_rolleyes.gif .


Have you ever heard of sources. We've been through this before... icon_rolleyes.gif
chase
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An Indian Muslim protesting USA and Saddams demise.

Nice hat! lol
maako
A zombie asks : ## "Have you ever heard of sources. We've been through this before... ]]

Believe it or not , there are some of us (non-americans ) who are capable of filtering news . form our own assessesment /opinions, unlike most americans , can think for ourselves instead of going into parrot -mode, repeating what your President tells you to think. icon_rolleyes.gif
hani50
Not only can we Europeans register and remember news, form our own opinions and come to our own conclusions, without needing them spoon fed to us, but we understand irony as well. An example of irony is someone posting on this thread demanding sources, then thowing up an unsourced picture in the next post.
chase
QUOTE(maako @ 01/03/07 03:07 PM) [snapback]101621[/snapback]

A zombie asks : ## "Have you ever heard of sources. We've been through this before... ]]

Believe it or not , there are some of us (non-americans ) who are capable of filtering news . form our own assessesment /opinions, unlike most americans , can think for ourselves instead of going into parrot -mode, repeating what your President tells you to think. icon_rolleyes.gif


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concheet
QUOTE(maako @ 01/02/07 07:32 PM) [snapback]101568[/snapback]

Chase , at the time those photos was taken , the American media blamed it on the Ayatollahs of Iran.

Why do you think they did that ? smiley18.gif


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I was in Baghdad when the incident took place. He is correct that in 1988 we believed that Iran was primarily responsible for the chemical attack on the Kurds in Halabjah. However, that analysis was later proven wrong as additional information came to light.

In 1995, one of the Iraqi pilots who had participated in the attack defected to the Kurds in northern Iraq. I was among those serving in northern Iraq and talked to the pilot. He confirmed that it was Iraqis who had perpetrated the attacks. It was about this same time that Khidhir Hamza, a physicist involved in the Iraqi nuclear program defected as well. According to Hamza, the attack on Halabjah was a weapons test to determine if Iraqi chemists had perfected development of the nerve agent. A month later, after the successful "test" at Halabjah, the Iraqis used the agent in their attack on the Al-Faw peninsula.

Halabjah was an attack by Saddam Husayn's Iraq on its own citizens. Let's not rewrite history.


http://francona.blogspot.com/2007/01/iraq-...h-revisted.html



chase
QUOTE(hani50 @ 01/03/07 07:23 PM) [snapback]101644[/snapback]

Not only can we Europeans register and remember news, form our own opinions and come to our own conclusions, without needing them spoon fed to us, but we understand irony as well. An example of irony is someone posting on this thread demanding sources, then thowing up an unsourced picture in the next post.


Okay, so it's a picture taken in Bradford, England by the Queens photographer. Happy now... I still like his cute lil' hat. lol
concheet
Here's a little history lesson in a few short words. They are short enough for even mucky and hani can read them.


Iran-Iraq War
Iran-Iraq War, 1980–88, protracted military conflict between Iran and Iraq. It officially began on Sept. 22, 1980, with an Iraqi land and air invasion of western Iran, although Iraqi spokespersons maintained that Iran had been engaging in artillery attacks on Iraqi towns since Sept. 4. Iraqi president Saddam Hussein claimed as the reason for his attack on Iran a territorial dispute over the Shatt al Arab, a waterway that empties into the Persian Gulf and forms the boundary between Iran and Iraq. In 1975, a militarily weaker Iraq had by treaty signed over to Iran partial control of the waterway, but after the fall (1979) of Muhammad Reza Shah Pahlevi and the resultant weakening of Iran's military, Iraq seized the opportunity to reclaim the Shatt al Arab. Iraq also hoped to seize the western Iranian region of Khuzestan, an area known for its extensive oil fields. The Iraqi offensive was initially successful, capturing the port city of Khorramshahr by the end of 1980. Iranian resistance proved strong, however, and Iraqi troops had withdrawn from the occupied portions of Iran by early 1982. Nevertheless, Iranian leader Ruhollah Khomeini declared that Iran would not cease fighting until Saddam's regime was toppled. Iran began a series of offensives, which proved successful enough to cause Iraq to resort to the use of chemical weapons (see poison gas), a tactic reviled by the international community. Khomeini's troops captured the oil-rich Majnoon Islands from Iraq in Feb., 1984, and southern Iraq's Fao peninsula in early 1986. Sporadic air and missile attacks on cities and military installations were common throughout the war, and in 1985 both sides began to strike their opponent's capital. The United States and several Western European nations became involved in the war in 1987, in response to Iranian attacks on Kuwaiti oil tankers traveling in the Persian Gulf. These attacks sullied Iran's international reputation considerably, making it difficult for Khomeini to obtain arms. Finally, in July, 1988, Iran was forced to accept a United Nations–mandated cease-fire. Estimates of the number of dead range up to 1.5 million. In its war effort, Iran was supported by Syria and Libya, and received much of its weaponry from North Korea and China, as well as from covert arms transactions from the United States. Iraq enjoyed much wider support, both among Arab and Western nations: the Soviet Union was its largest supplier of arms. In 1990 Iraq, concerned with securing its forcible annexation of Kuwait (see Persian Gulf War), agreed to accept the terms of the 1975 treaty with Iran and withdraw its troops from Iranian territory as well as exchange all prisoners of war. An agreement was not signed, however, and both sides held thousands of POWs for many years. Several prisoner exchanges and releases occurred after 1988; the final exchange took place in 2003.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0825449.html

chase
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I was in Baghdad when the incident took place. He is correct that in 1988 we believed that Iran was primarily responsible for the chemical attack on the Kurds in Halabjah. However, that analysis was later proven wrong as additional information came to light.

In 1995, one of the Iraqi pilots who had participated in the attack defected to the Kurds in northern Iraq. I was among those serving in northern Iraq and talked to the pilot. He confirmed that it was Iraqis who had perpetrated the attacks. It was about this same time that Khidhir Hamza, a physicist involved in the Iraqi nuclear program defected as well. According to Hamza, the attack on Halabjah was a weapons test to determine if Iraqi chemists had perfected development of the nerve agent. A month later, after the successful "test" at Halabjah, the Iraqis used the agent in their attack on the Al-Faw peninsula.

Halabjah was an attack by Saddam Husayn's Iraq on its own citizens. Let's not rewrite history.


http://francona.blogspot.com/2007/01/iraq-...h-revisted.html

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Halabjah was an attack by Saddam Husayn's Iraq on its own citizens. Let's not rewrite history.


It's all they do here concheet. icon_rolleyes.gif



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Here's a little history lesson in a few short words. They are short enough for even mucky and hani can read them.


We'll see...I see the picture of Rummy shaking hands with Saddam appearing very soon. icon_smile.gif
concheet
quick history lesson. Iran in 1980

Here's a recap of the hostage crisis in 1979 and 1980 that dominated U.S. headlines and captured popular interest:

In early 1979, conditions in Iran had started to deteriorate. Various factions were fighting to oust the Shah of Iran from power.

On Jan. 16, the shah, Muhammad Reza Pahlevi, whose regime had the support of the United States, announced that he was taking a short vacation. A new government had been formed to replace Pahlevi's military administration. The main opposition force, headed by the Ayatollah Khomeini, however, refused to join or cooperate with the new government.

Pahlevi then fled into exile, but was denied admission into the United States and temporarily settled in Egypt.

Weeks later revolutionaries loyal to Khomeini seized 70 employees at the U.S. embassy in Tehran and held them hostage for several hours to protest American involvement with the shah's regime.

As conditions in the Iranian capital grew more chaotic, the U.S. government evacuated families of embassy personnel. Other Americans still in the country were urged to leave Iran immediately.

On Oct. 22, 1979, the shah was allowed to enter the United States for gall bladder surgery, prompting a new round of protest in Iran.

On Nov. 4, 1979, thousands of students, demanding the return of the shah, overran the U.S. embassy and took about 90 people captive. Later, some were freed, including women, non-Americans and blacks.

As diplomatic efforts to free the hostages began, President Carter halted oil imports from Iran and froze Iranian assets in the United States, prompting yet another Iranian outburst of protest against America.

As negotiations continued into December, Penelope Laingen, wife of hostage Bruce Laingen, charge d'affaires of the embassy, tied a yellow ribbon around a tree at her home in Maryland, and a nationwide movement began. Millions of Americans also tied the yellow symbols of freedom around trees in their yards. (They stayed up until the hostages came home – more than a year later.)

A frustrated President Carter severed diplomatic relations with Iran and imposed a complete economic embargo with Iran in April 1980.

On April 24, Operation Eagle Claw, a top-secret mission to free the hostages, ended in disaster. At the outset of the operation, a helicopter developed engine trouble in a staging area of the Iranian desert. Eight Americans were killed as two planes collided during the subsequent withdrawal of U.S. forces.

Even the death of the shah in July did not persuade the ayatollah and students to free the hostages.

Iraq invaded Iran in Sept. 22, 1980, and a full-scale war ensued between the two nations, causing further problems with negotiations on the hostages.

The hostage crisis played a major role in the presidential campaign of 1980. President Carter was preoccupied with the situation and perhaps did not pay enough attention to his re-election campaign, opting instead for a Rose Garden strategy.

His opponent, Ronald Reagan, however, had created a network of informants within the government to give him advance warning of any changes in the hostage situation. Some accused him of exploiting the hostage crisis in his campaign.

As widely expected, Mr. Reagan beat Mr. Carter in the presidential election on Nov. 4, 1980.

Perhaps fearing the new incoming administration, Iran then began new negotiations to free the hostages. Iranians originally asked for $24 billion in return for the captives, but eventually lowered their demands.

On Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 1981, Iran agreed to accept $8 billion in frozen assets and a promise by the United States to lift trade sanctions in exchange for the release of the hostages.

After 444 days in captivity, the 52 hostages flew out of Tehran to the Wiesbaden Air Force Base in West Germany. The announcement was made minutes after President Reagan was sworn in.

And on Jan. 21, 1981 former President Carter, who had hoped to greet the hostages as his last official act, flew to West Germany as President Reagan's emissary to greet them.

The yellow ribbons came down.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/01/18/...ain265244.shtml
hani50
QUOTE(chase @ 01/04/07 03:46 AM) [snapback]101658[/snapback]

Okay, so it's a picture taken in Bradford, England by the Queens photographer. Happy now... I still like his cute lil' hat. lol

Nope, still not happy. But very amused. After all, it's rare to find someone with so little self-awareness that they'd do something quite this... ironic, accidentally.
chase
QUOTE(hani50 @ 01/04/07 03:50 AM) [snapback]101676[/snapback]

Nope, still not happy. But very amused. After all, it's rare to find someone with so little self-awareness that they'd do something quite this... ironic, accidentally.


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It's so true hani. One would think he would be aware of what hat he donned before going to a US protest. It had to be accidental and yes it's certainly ironic but still it's cute. Doncha think...

What British Queen used to say - "I am not amused"?
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